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Este vreo sansa sa se deschida vreun server nou? Poate unul non-reset? As vrea sa vad daruirea si cunostintele despre joc alea administratiei Divinity puse si pe un server non-reset.

Sper ca nu am postat la vreo categorie aiurea.

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On 1/28/2022 at 12:48 AM, xEna said:

Este vreo sansa sa se deschida vreun server nou? Poate unul non-reset? As vrea sa vad daruirea si cunostintele despre joc alea administratiei Divinity puse si pe un server non-reset.

Sper ca nu am postat la vreo categorie aiurea.

Buna ziua!

Sigur, avem in plan in viitorul apropiat sa extindem comunitatea cu mai multe tipuri de servere, x500,x50, non-reset si chiar Season 6 EP3.

Pe TebaMU degeaba dezvoltam si aplicam diferite eventuri, functii, etc (muncim zile intregi si se vede doar DMG la diferite charactere).Daca ceva nu e bine, se face greva, cam asa se rezolva treburile. Daca este PvP-ul putin intr-o directie nu se vede altceva (suntem praf). 

Asa ca vom incerca sa dezvoltam si alte tipuri de servere  in care ne poate fi apreciata munca iar majoritatea jucatorilor sa fie multumiti. Pe TebaMU ne vom focaliza doar pe PvP si eventuri de PvP (Castle Siege, Arka, Ice Castle, etc.)

 MU-Online nu este doar despre PvP si Reset-uri, asa ca vom incerca sa facem in asa fel incat sa dezvoltam o comunitate cu toate tipurile de jucatori pentru ca este pacat de cunostintele dobandite in tot acest timp (de peste 15 ani). Sunt sigur ca impreuna putem face o treaba geniala si putem realiza lucruri geniale si unice.

Acestea fiind spuse, dupa ce vom actualiza TebaMU la versiunea S17 P1-3 cu PvP-ul asa cum se cere vom incepe dezvoltarea altor servere. Pana la sfarsitul anului am in plan ca toate serverele mentionate mai sus sa fie Online.

Mai multe detalii voi posta la fiecare server in parte atunci cand suntem pregatiti.

Toate cele bune!

MeTa

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Hello,

Oare ce putem face pe server in timpul săptămânii?

-rr/gr invazii etc: au un reward de toată jena(raportat la ce prețuri sunt la poțiuni,aduni 2 săptămâni ca sa cheltui la un CS)

-Sa facem gens? Ce oferă?nimic interesant..avem de toate!

-sa facem seturi socket?neinteresant,sunt 0 barat acestea!

-sa facem seturi?nu prea ai atracție,șansele la harmony option sunt mai mici decât sa câștigi la Lotto!

 

In concluzie,mai un caracter prin LoT,când și când niște donații și asta-i tot!I CS,arca și atât! 
 

PS: dacă vroiai activitate pe server mai mare,nu băgai aripa power la vânzare,Lion rare la fel….

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Am stat mult sa ma gandesc ce legatura are cu subiectul, dar am zis totusi sa-ti raspund.

1. Se vor recalcula la urm. update. (oricum nu se va rezolva nimic in privinta rr/gr, nu te vei apuca de rr daca ar fi reward este mai mare, ai raspuns singur de ce "avem de toate")

2. Este simplu, lasa pentru cei care nu au de toate.

3. Ai posibilitatea sa adaugi harmony de pe site, daca asta te impiedica (si ar rezolva si problema cu rr/gr)

4. Cand nu erau aripile power la vanzare era mare activitate in cursul saptamanii.

 

Te rog data viitoare sa postezi aici : https://www.divinitymu.org/index.php?/mu-online/38-feedback-new-ideeas/

Subiectul nu vizeaza strict TebaMU.

Toate cele bune,

MeTa

 

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Ai adus tu in discutie subiectul tebamu... si prin ce spui tu mai sus ..ca se face greva ..cum ii spui tu ..(nu este o greva ...vrem sa jucam ce caracter vrem noi ..nu ce ne impui tu )

Cunostiintele alea de peste 15 ani de mu ..ce le specifici tu acolo ....nu se regasesc in servarul tau deloc ... mai pe scurt ..si la direct ..nu sti sa faci 1 pvp  ..si azi daca  faci ..peste maxim 1 sap e varza iar ..

Mu online ..este doar despre pvp... si ce mai spui tu acolo ...ca nu am venit aici pe mu...  (mirc) ..sa ne facem prieteni ...cu asl pls ..si xxx jpg..si sa ne luam toti in brate ..vai ce bine ca ne intalnim

La sezonul  S17 P1-3 cu (PvP-ul asa cum spui tu ca se cere) o sa fie tot la fel ca ultimele ? Sa se roage lumea pe bani lor ..sa faci ceva constructiv ?  Ca la stricat esti as ... 

Ps: vorbesc cu tine de summoner de luni de zile ...mai iti si dau pm uri ...cu ce nu e ok ..si el tot 0 e ..ca si restul caracterelor ... 

Sper sa revi cu picioarele pe pamant si sa nu te axezi doar pe 1 caracter ...daca tot te lauzi cei 15 ani de mu ...fa ceva sa se vada in joc ...nu in vorbe pe forum ...

Multumesc

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Ideea e simpla , daca ar fi dupa tine noi , playerii , ar trebui sa ne facem si refacem caracterul principal saptamanal , azi SM , sapt viitoare elf , dar aparent mai bine facem GC OP ca ii doar point and click , un swell acolo de ochii lumii si DL ii optional chiar si la CS . Unde is vremurile alea cand aveai nevoie de SM BK DL RF SUMM intr-un party ? Nu ii atractiv deloc serverul la cate schimbari are facute mai mereu , un player nou care , chiar si vechi care o jucat “o viata” doar 1 caracter pentru ca ala ii place ajunge pe meleagurile Teba(easy) si se sperie cand vede , de aia nu sunt playeri noi si nu vom avea niciodata altii noi , e server privat dar nu e server pentru playeri , e un server strict pentru tine si doar pentru tine .  Interesul tau de 15 ani ce l-ai scris mai sus , ca experienta nu s-a vazut aproape deloc pe nici un sezon la PvP e sa faci bani , astepti sa vina un Paste un Craciun , un Haloween sa faci niste banuti de la prostalaii si cam acolo se termina interesul si experienta ta . Probabil de aia ai si scos Fault Language-ul ca sa mai creasca ura de pe server sa ne mai asmuti unul pe altul pana vine Pastele . In concluzie un lucru e sigur , nu ai ascultat de parerile playerilor decat daca stiai ca v-a fi un avantaj financiar pe viitor pentru tine , asta ii adevarul . Sa nu te astepti la minuni sa revina serverul cum era mai demult daca ramane aceleasi setari de PvP , pe care aparent nu s-au schimbat , dar al dracului ca se simt diferite de la zi la zi . Explica-mi asta ! Te rog explica  cum se poate schimba PvP fara sa fie vreun update vizibil ? 

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@Chosen 

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Mu online ..este doar despre pvp... si ce mai spui tu acolo ...ca nu am venit aici pe mu...  (mirc) ..sa ne facem prieteni ...cu asl pls ..si xxx jpg..si sa ne luam toti in brate ..vai ce bine ca ne intalnim

Cat de mult gresesti, asta e problema la serverele cu reset. 90% din joc devine doar despre PVP, 9% iteme si 1% restul jocului.

 

Pe un server non-reset, care nu poti cumpara iteme din x-shop (cel putin nu dalea OP), v-a trebuii sa re-inveti tot ce insemna MU, trecerea de la non-elemental maps la elemental maps, iti face gear-ul inutil, terecerea de la Ferea la Nixie te face sa ai minim o Pentagrama buna 4 sloturi cu errtele bune si party bun. Nu mai zic ca webzen cu ultimul update-uri a adus multiple builduri in calcul, acum orice caracter se poate face pe main AGI, avem vreo 5-6 variatii de MG. Jocul e mega complex si e pacat sa vezi doar partea de PVP.

 

Jocul asta e mult mai mult decat PVP, si este pacat ca, cunostintele pe care le detine Meta si insusi buildul serverului sa nu fie folosit la potentialul maxim.  Numai prin simplul fapt ca daca ai avea un server 10x ti-ar lua cam 6 luni (cu bufuri) sa faci max level e un achievement. Nu mai vorbim de RUUD-ul care va fi castigat  cu greutate facand eventuri care iti dau 1000 RUUD. Un astfel de server te face sa joci activ. Si da atunci cand ai 99% alte chestii de facut PVP-ul nu va fi prioritar, si atunci vei putea avea variatie in builduri, anumite caractere/builduri o sa trebuiasca sa fie OP, nu ai cum sa balansezi fara sa strici esenta caracterului. Dar e OK atat timp cat partea de PVE/PVM este buna.  Sa vezi cum 100 puncte in plus la stats iti ofera avantaj fata de alt build, si sa stii ca tu ai reusit sa faci chestia aia e mai buna decat ori PK de l-am dat vreodata.

 

Si da sunt sigur ca Meta poate sa faca orice event outdated pe un server non-reset sa fie folositor, Castle Siege pe non-reset e la fel de neinportant ca si pe reset.

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I ask myself how would any of you play on an official server ?

I assume MeTa could open a "test-like" server for you too see how the game SHOULD be played and how you ARE playing it . 

The PVP is broken just because this game [ the engine ] is not built for this kind of stats . The math behind the damage is different when you have % of stats . Math cannot be changed . Think of it as this : " You want an Olympic pool . The length MUST be 50.0 m . You make the pool 49.5 m .  You start training and see that you are very good at it ....you may even break a record or two . Guess what ....you don't ....That 0.5 will start adding up in a few laps. " 

Take the example here and use it for max agility . If you spent all your stats into agility you can have around 10.000 . 

So this is just a mock up mod you kids like to measure your own "masculinity" .

MeTa here is doing his best controlling your requests and oblivious demands . 

 

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Oblivious demands , yeahh thanks a million you are a good padawan of MeTa . It’s the players problem if something is wrong and for years you tell him what is wrong and still ignores you , until an important event is coming along and there is a motive to make some money . TebaMU (easy) is a business nothing else for him , he thrives from the simple fact that we hate each other. 

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You cannot have PVP with a good experience on a max-stats server. You cannot balance all classes, even if you do, you wreck the role-playing side.

Mu has specific classes that are designed for PVP, like BK, SUMM, RF, MG, GL, Slayer (for newer seasons). The rest are support classes that can also sort of PVP.

Elf is the best at hunting mobs (not bosses), SM can deal massive AOE damage and it is outstanding for that, DL is the class made only for one role, to be a guild master (a DL that is a guild master can add 30 more members - dunno if the code still exists on newer seasons). Your Rune Wizard is a class that has AOE damage and has some native Elemental Defense.

On Season 17 you have two more classes that further expand on the role-playing  side, with a new buffer (Lemuria Mage) that can also deal good AOE damage, and Kundun Mage that requires (sort-of) a Lemuria Mage in order to deal great damage. While their bond is active all party deals enhanced damage.

 

So this is why you cannot balance, each class has its own way of doing things. Castle Siege is not a PVP event no matter how you want it to be, it is a more strategy focused event. Even on global original server, you cannot kill people on CS, their items are just too strong, so you have to strategize with specific skills or builds. PVP on CS is more like rock-paper-scissors.

 

On the other hand Duel, should be completely ignored.  Sure is fun pwning noobs but is shitty. Let me see you 1v1 God of Darkness on non-reset.

 

I hope you understand you cannot have every class be good at everything. Even on non-reset servers people will complain. The game was designed to be played for years in order to have items. I always see players saying that nixie lake mobs are too strong, that "x" boss one shots me. But the game was designed for you to have 1 year to max-out your gear in order to kill one boss.

 

I remember playing on Teba in S6E3 i had Summoner called 'Isis" and a couple of grand resets. It would not matter if you had 40 grand resets i would still sleep your ass for 1 minute (the good old days). I had even 20 people in sleep on some CS. You know what happened? People complained about a class specific thing and it was nerfed, this is because people won't be real with themselves and accept that it should be ok to get rekt from time to time in order to have a healthy game.  It was fun in Duels to sleep the enemy and debuff its ass, and burst it in 1 second. Remember when Elf multishot stunned, and DL fireburst stunned, everything stunned :). BK was an op piece of shit 🙂 because of mace reflect.

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4 hours ago, xEna said:

You cannot have PVP with a good experience on a max-stats server. You cannot balance all classes, even if you do, you wreck the role-playing side.

Mu has specific classes that are designed for PVP, like BK, SUMM, RF, MG, GL, Slayer (for newer seasons). The rest are support classes that can also sort of PVP.

Elf is the best at hunting mobs (not bosses), SM can deal massive AOE damage and it is outstanding for that, DL is the class made only for one role, to be a guild master (a DL that is a guild master can add 30 more members - dunno if the code still exists on newer seasons). Your Rune Wizard is a class that has AOE damage and has some native Elemental Defense.

On Season 17 you have two more classes that further expand on the role-playing  side, with a new buffer (Lemuria Mage) that can also deal good AOE damage, and Kundun Mage that requires (sort-of) a Lemuria Mage in order to deal great damage. While their bond is active all party deals enhanced damage.

 

So this is why you cannot balance, each class has its own way of doing things. Castle Siege is not a PVP event no matter how you want it to be, it is a more strategy focused event. Even on global original server, you cannot kill people on CS, their items are just too strong, so you have to strategize with specific skills or builds. PVP on CS is more like rock-paper-scissors.

 

On the other hand Duel, should be completely ignored.  Sure is fun pwning noobs but is shitty. Let me see you 1v1 God of Darkness on non-reset.

 

I hope you understand you cannot have every class be good at everything. Even on non-reset servers people will complain. The game was designed to be played for years in order to have items. I always see players saying that nixie lake mobs are too strong, that "x" boss one shots me. But the game was designed for you to have 1 year to max-out your gear in order to kill one boss.

 

I remember playing on Teba in S6E3 i had Summoner called 'Isis" and a couple of grand resets. It would not matter if you had 40 grand resets i would still sleep your ass for 1 minute (the good old days). I had even 20 people in sleep on some CS. You know what happened? People complained about a class specific thing and it was nerfed, this is because people won't be real with themselves and accept that it should be ok to get rekt from time to time in order to have a healthy game.  It was fun in Duels to sleep the enemy and debuff its ass, and burst it in 1 second. Remember when Elf multishot stunned, and DL fireburst stunned, everything stunned :). BK was an op piece of shit 🙂 because of mace reflect.

Tu joci pe Teba Mu(easy) aka GC mu? 

Unde Hristos ai vazut tu balansare pe acest server??????sunt o gramada de eroi care nici nu sunt jucati: SM fking useless,MS nu are nici o valoare,DL ii acolo sa de-a si el un summ,BK da un swell si mai prinde si el un kill,RF a fost pus la naftalina,SL saracul ii doar de peisaj,sa nu mai zicem de GL care a fost pus pe bara de la terminarea sezonului 15,MG nici macar de farm nu ii ok,Sumonera ii doar la numar,GC d,g fara limita,Elfa sa stea in fata ca pe traseu...

 

Asta ti se pare balansare???eu cred ca acum ati descoperit prima data mu daca considerati ca sunt setarile ok...sa nu mai zicem de hartile buguite,de ex la arca unde dai in altii dar ei nu sunt acolo(doar visual) si lista poate continua la nesfarsite...niciodata nu am vazut un pvp cat de cat balansat...ori are un erou dmg enorm de mare ori jucam bambilici,impinsa cu dl si bk....

Partea si mai buna este ca,cand este vorba despre un event,trebuie sa stergi de praf Mastercard/Visa si sa bagi,la asemenea eventuri nu ai sanse sa castigi fara $$$$$$$$,partea si mai buna este ca acolo nu este nici o problema,toate merg struna...doar un kybak de PVP nu se poate seta decent,sau se reuseste si dupa 1 saptamana nu mai este la fel! 

 

Teba mu a devenit GC mu..1 DL,1 BK si 3 GC...asa se joaca..restul 0 barat

 

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16 hours ago, xEna said:

You cannot have PVP with a good experience on a max-stats server. You cannot balance all classes, even if you do, you wreck the role-playing side.

Mu has specific classes that are designed for PVP, like BK, SUMM, RF, MG, GL, Slayer (for newer seasons). The rest are support classes that can also sort of PVP.

Elf is the best at hunting mobs (not bosses), SM can deal massive AOE damage and it is outstanding for that, DL is the class made only for one role, to be a guild master (a DL that is a guild master can add 30 more members - dunno if the code still exists on newer seasons). Your Rune Wizard is a class that has AOE damage and has some native Elemental Defense.

On Season 17 you have two more classes that further expand on the role-playing  side, with a new buffer (Lemuria Mage) that can also deal good AOE damage, and Kundun Mage that requires (sort-of) a Lemuria Mage in order to deal great damage. While their bond is active all party deals enhanced damage.

 

So this is why you cannot balance, each class has its own way of doing things. Castle Siege is not a PVP event no matter how you want it to be, it is a more strategy focused event. Even on global original server, you cannot kill people on CS, their items are just too strong, so you have to strategize with specific skills or builds. PVP on CS is more like rock-paper-scissors.

 

On the other hand Duel, should be completely ignored.  Sure is fun pwning noobs but is shitty. Let me see you 1v1 God of Darkness on non-reset.

 

I hope you understand you cannot have every class be good at everything. Even on non-reset servers people will complain. The game was designed to be played for years in order to have items. I always see players saying that nixie lake mobs are too strong, that "x" boss one shots me. But the game was designed for you to have 1 year to max-out your gear in order to kill one boss.

 

I remember playing on Teba in S6E3 i had Summoner called 'Isis" and a couple of grand resets. It would not matter if you had 40 grand resets i would still sleep your ass for 1 minute (the good old days). I had even 20 people in sleep on some CS. You know what happened? People complained about a class specific thing and it was nerfed, this is because people won't be real with themselves and accept that it should be ok to get rekt from time to time in order to have a healthy game.  It was fun in Duels to sleep the enemy and debuff its ass, and burst it in 1 second. Remember when Elf multishot stunned, and DL fireburst stunned, everything stunned :). BK was an op piece of shit 🙂 because of mace reflect.

@xEna Welcome back Isis

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On 2/6/2022 at 7:12 PM, kybak said:

Tu joci pe Teba Mu(easy) aka GC mu? 

Unde Hristos ai vazut tu balansare pe acest server??????sunt o gramada de eroi care nici nu sunt jucati: SM fking useless,MS nu are nici o valoare,DL ii acolo sa de-a si el un summ,BK da un swell si mai prinde si el un kill,RF a fost pus la naftalina,SL saracul ii doar de peisaj,sa nu mai zicem de GL care a fost pus pe bara de la terminarea sezonului 15,MG nici macar de farm nu ii ok,Sumonera ii doar la numar,GC d,g fara limita,Elfa sa stea in fata ca pe traseu...

 

Asta ti se pare balansare???eu cred ca acum ati descoperit prima data mu daca considerati ca sunt setarile ok...sa nu mai zicem de hartile buguite,de ex la arca unde dai in altii dar ei nu sunt acolo(doar visual) si lista poate continua la nesfarsite...niciodata nu am vazut un pvp cat de cat balansat...ori are un erou dmg enorm de mare ori jucam bambilici,impinsa cu dl si bk....

Partea si mai buna este ca,cand este vorba despre un event,trebuie sa stergi de praf Mastercard/Visa si sa bagi,la asemenea eventuri nu ai sanse sa castigi fara $$$$$$$$,partea si mai buna este ca acolo nu este nici o problema,toate merg struna...doar un kybak de PVP nu se poate seta decent,sau se reuseste si dupa 1 saptamana nu mai este la fel! 

 

Teba mu a devenit GC mu..1 DL,1 BK si 3 GC...asa se joaca..restul 0 barat

 

Hai sa fim realisti acum. La o simpla cautare pe acest forum, vom vedea ca au existat asemenea plangeri din toate directiile, dupa fiecare update(Ba Slayer este OP, ba GL este OP, ba RF este OP, etc ). De fiecare data  cei care se simteau avantajati de utilizarea acelui caracter au fost impotriva. 

 

Daca cineva vine cu o propunere, un "rival" nu va fi niciodata de acord. Daca se doreste un server balansat, echilibrat, singura modalitate este aceea de a se pune la masa si a discuta persoane din ambele tabere, pentru a se ajunge la un consens. Insa, acest lucru pare imposibil pe acest lucru.

 

Deasemenea, si @MeTa  a gresit, deoarece s-a lasat influentat de presiunile unora de a beneficia de anumite iteme "premium",  iteme care ar fi trebuit obtinute exclusiv in joc. Acest lucru a dus clar la eliminarea activitatii din joc.

 

Deci singura varianta prin care, pe acest server sa existe si activitate si un echilibru, este acela de a exista un consens intre factiunile majore si sa se discute deschis, fara jigniri, fara atacuri la persoana samd.

 

Spor!

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